To investigate the criminal conduct of all institutions, organizations, and individuals involved in the persecution of Falun Gong; to bring such investigations, no matter how long it takes, no matter how far and deep we have to search, to full closure; to exercise fundamental principles of humanity; and to restore and uphold justice in society.

A WOIPFG Investigation Report on the Chinese Communist Party’s Ongoing Crime of Live Organ Harvesting against Falun Dafa Practitioners (VI)

--- New Evidence of the CCP’s Crime of Live Organ Harvesting from Falun Gong Practitioners
Investigation period: October 19 – December 2, 2018


From October 19 to December 2, 2018, World Organization to Investigate Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG) conducted a series of phone investigations on some key hospitals and their presidents or directors, which have been involved in the CCP’s live organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners. The investigation indicates:

I. These hospitals and doctors on WOIPFG's investigation lists have not stopped, and they continue harvesting organs from living Falun Gong practitioners

The investigation results reveal again that the CCP is still conducting live organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners. In response to the question “Are you still using organs from Falun Gong practitioners?” 10 investigated individuals (from nine hospitals) gave affirmative answers: “Yes, yes”, “right, right, right”, “right, right, correct, correct, you are right”, “right, right, right, ah”, “Right, this is for sure”, “No problem”, “Let’s discuss after you come”. Although other responses were vague, none of them denied the use of Falun Gong practitioners’ organs.

For example, in the case of Zheng Shusen, the investigator asked whether the organs were still from the “healthy and normal Falun Gong practitioners”, Zheng replied: “Hehe, ..., after the organs arrive, we only keep the tested ones.” Zheng Shusen purposefully eluded the question, however, he did not deny using Falun Gong practitioners’ organs.

The 17 telephone investigations published in this report involve 12 hospitals in major cities of 11 provinces and central government direct-controlled municipalities, including Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai, Yantai, Zhengzhou, Hangzhou, Changsha, Nanjing, Xiangya, Guangzhou and Guangxi Province. The area investigated spans north to south and across entire China.

The individuals investigated are all presidents or directors of top-level organ transplant hospitals in China. Many are responsible for state-level projects in the field of organ transplantation, as well as national and provincial level technical experts. Some are even in charge of organizations dedicated to persecute Falun Gong. For example, Zheng Shusen, former president of the First Affiliated Hospital of the Zhejiang University College of Medicine, the current president of Shulan (Hangzhou) Hospital, former chairman of the Chinese Conference of Organ Transplantation, chairman of China’s Organ Procurement Organization (OPO).[1] Zheng Shusen is also a former chairman of Zhejiang Provincial Anti-Cult Association. (from 2007 to 2017).[2]

These hospital presidents and directors are all “heavy-weight” figures in key hospitals, which are suspected to have been participating in the live organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners.

Excerpts from phone Investigation Recordings:

1. Chen Xinguo, Director of Liver Transplantation of Beijing General Hospital of Armed Police:
(The investigator requested him to provide Falun Gong practitioners’ organs) Okay! Okay!

2. Wang Jianli, Associate Chief Physician of the of Organ Transplant Institute, Beijing Armed Police General Hospital:
(Investigator: Are the organs you are using now the healthy organs from Falun Gong practitioners, normal donors, right?) Right, right, right.

3. Lang Ren, Director of Liver Transplantation, Beijing Chao-Yang Hospital:
(Investigator: The donors, are the type of normal healthy donors of Falun Gong practitioners, right?) Right, right, that’s right, you’re right.

4. Miao Shuzhai, Chief Physician of the Organ Transplantation Center of the People’s Hospital of Zhengzhou:
(Investigator: And regarding your current donors, your donors are that type of normal donors (that practice) Falun Gong, right? ) Right, right.

5. Hang Hualian, Chief Medical Officer of Liver Transplantation Surgery Department, Shanghai Renji Hospital: I’ll try my best to get it done for you within one week.
(Investigator: You are using Falun Gong (practitioner) donors now, right?
Hang Hualian: Yes, this is for sure.)

6. Liu Dongfu, Director of Kidney Transplantation, Yantai Yuhuangding Hospital, Shandong Province:
(Investigator: The best would be, having a donor like that type of Falun Gong people, I mean a donor with normal conditions.
Liu Dongfu: This, listen to me, there is something that we can discuss after you come here.)

7. Peng Zhihai, Vice President of Shanghai General Hospital, Director of Organ Transplantation Center:
(Investigator: The main concern is if you can check the quality of the donors — the Falun Gong (practitioner) donors!) No problem, no problem.

8. Chen Huaizhou, Director of the Organ Transplant Center of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) No. 181 Hospital (Guilin, Guangxi):
(Investigator: His family members hope that, they hope to use that type of Falun Gong (practitioners) donors. If this kind of donors are available, he (i.e. the patient) will definitely come over immediately.) Yes, yes! You come over to be hospitalized for a checkup, have an examination, get a checkup first.

9. He Xiaoshun, Vice President of the First Affiliated Hospital, Sun Yat-sen University (1):
(Liver transplantation) usually takes one or two weeks to arrange an operation, but sometimes [it would take] one month. we have a lot available here, because we are a big center. We do more than 200 cases a year!

10. He Xiaoshun, Vice President of the First Affiliated Hospital, Sun Yat-sen University (2):
(Investigator: Since on one hand, it is the issue of skills, on the other hand, it is the issue of the organ. The organs you use, I know they are from Falun Gong practitioners, so the organs must be good. Combining these two factors, it would be perfect.) Correct.

11. Bai Rongsheng, Liver Transplant Doctor and Assistant to President Shen Zhongyang at Tianjin First Central Hospital:
(Investigator: Regarding liver donors, the situation now is that in general they are the type of healthy donors, right? The kind from Falun Gong practitioners, right?) Right, right, right, ah.

12. Qu Qingshan, Director of the Organ Transplantation Center of the People’s Hospital of Zhengzhou:
(Investigator: The donors you are using now, are still the normal donors of Falun Gong practitioners, right?) Yes, all of them are in the normal state.

13. Wang Changxi, Director of the Kidney Transplant Department’s Second Section at the First Affiliated Hospital, Sun Yat-Sen University, Guangzhou:
(Investigator: You still use (those from) Falun Gong (practitioners), healthy donors, right?) All, all of them are. Now all donated ones are. All deceased citizen donors might all have these.

14. Zheng Shusen, President of Shulan (Hangzhou) Hospital:
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Investigator: As for the liver source, the organ, your current organs are all healthy and normal organs of Falun Gong (practitioners), right?
Zheng Shusen: Hehe, ..., after the organs arrive, we only keep the tested ones.

15. Ye Qifa, Vice President of the Third Xiangya Hospital of Central South University: After the matching is finished, a surgery can possibly be performed within a month.
Investigator: About that, your donors are still Falun Gong (practitioners), donors in normal conditions, right?
Ye Qifa: It’s easy to perform (the surgery). Just send me his medical record first, alright?

16. Wang Xuehao, Director of the Liver Transplantation Center of the First Affiliated Hospital of Nanjing Medical University: It usually takes less than two weeks to arrange a liver transplant operation for Blood Type B patients. Most organs come from outside of the hospital, obtained from the center of brain deaths.

17, Dr. Li, Doctor-on-duty at the Urology Surgery Department of Beijing Chaoyang Hospital: The normal kidney sources from Falun Gong (practitioners). Generally speaking, not only take a kidney, but also the heart, and liver, it takes about three or four hours for this process.

II. Operations can be guaranteed to take place within one or two weeks

Regarding the wait time for operations, most of the presidents and directors under investigation promised to schedule one within one or two weeks. Hang Hualian, Chief Medical Officer of Liver Transplantation Surgery Department, Shanghai Renji Hospital said, “I’ll try my best to get it done for you within one week.” Liu Dongfu, Director of Kidney Transplantation, Yantai Yuhuangding Hospital, Shandong Province said, “We may have it (kidney source) as fast as tomorrow.”

III. It was Revealed that Transplant Organ Donors are from the “Center of Brain Deaths”

Wang Xuehao, Director of the Liver Transplantation Center of the First Affiliated Hospital of Nanjing Medical University said, most of the organs they use come from outside of the hospital and obtained from the center of brain deaths.

IV. Organs are Excised and Transplanted Simultaneously

Many hospitals acknowledged that they use brain-dead organ donors. The organ excisions are carried out simultaneously with the transplants. In other words, the times for warm ischemia and cold ischemia are both extremely short. This is inconsistent with the condition of voluntary organ donation after death.

V. A Liver Transplant Only Costs 200,000 to 300,000 yuan

It usually costs at least 700,000 yuan and up for a liver transplant. However, Wang Jianli of the General Hospital of Armed Police told investigator, “Not much, 200,000 or 300,000 yuan will be okay.” Wang Jianli offered a “promotional price”, obviously to patronize the Sichuan Provincial (Wang Jianli: Hello) Political and Legal Affairs Commission deputy director for the Stability Maintenance Office. Wang Jianli bought into this title of a government department, which persecutes Falun Gong. This suggests that the organs used by them are connected to Falun Gong practitioners.

A liver transplant would normally cost hundreds of thousand yuan, or even over one million yuan. And the amount of money they charge can be decided by a director. This means that the director has a lot of power. When being asked about the donor sources, they usually replied, “I do not know. Please ask the director.” “As for the organ sources, quality, time of operation and price, you can discuss with the director at the clinic.”

It can be seen that the organ transplant directors hold the core secrets in the organ transplantation industry, and they are very powerful. They play leading roles in the black box operations of organ transplantation.

17 Phone Investigation Recordings (Involving 12 Hospitals)

Investigation Recording 1, Chen Xinguo: Director of Liver Transplantation of Beijing General Hospital of Armed Police

Investigation Time: October 19, 2018 (+13701220662)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 1.pdf)

Excerpts:
“At the end of the month, it should be ready.”
Investigator: We can’t use the ones that underwent tortures or hunger strikes. This [type of organs] is not the best. It is better to have them in the normal state. Those who do the practice would be even better.
Chen Xinguo: Don’t worry, we have done a lot, I will check it for you, ah! Investigator: Especially the ones that practice Falun Gong, they would be the best.
Chen Xinguo: Okay! Okay!

Personal profile:
Chief Physician (liver transplant), Master’s degree students’ supervisor, member of the Standing Committee of the Organ Transplantation Committee of the Beijing Medical Association, member of the Organ Transplantation Expert Committee of the Beijing Medical Association, member of the Standing Committee of the Organ Transplantation Committee of the China Research Hospital Society, and member of the Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation Committee of the China Research Hospital Society. In 2002, Chen Xinguo was performing clinical work in the area of liver transplantation, and he has assisted more than 10 units in Beijing and other places to carry out liver transplant surgeries.[3]

Investigation Recording 2, Wang Jianli: Associate Chief Physician of the of Organ Transplant Institute, Beijing Armed Police General Hospital

Investigation Time: November 2, 2018 (13911723417)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 2.pdf)

Excerpts:
“Not sure when that can be ready, but we have a lot of organs here! A surgery can be arranged within one or two weeks.
(Investigator: are the organs you are using now the healthy organs from Falun Gong practitioners, normal donors, right?) Right, right, right. (A liver transplant) can be done with 200,000 or 300,000 (yuan).

Personal profile:
Associate Chief Physician of the of Organ Transplant Institute, Beijing Armed Police General Hospital. He is currently the leader of the Liver Transplant and Kidney Transplantation Team at the Liver Transplant Institute of the Armed Police General Hospital.[4]

Investigation Recording 3, Zheng Shusen: President of Shulan (Hangzhou) Hospital

Investigation time: November 3, 2018 (13805749805)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 3.pdf)

Excerpts:
A liver transplant surgery can be arranged within two weeks.

When being asked whether the organs were from Falun Gong practitioners, Zheng gave an irrelevant answer, but he did not negate using the organs of the Falun Gong practitioners, either.

Personal Profile:
Zheng Shusen was former president of the First Affiliated Hospital, School of Medicine, Zhejiang University, director of this hospital’s organ transplant center, the incumbent president of Shulan (Hangzhou) Hospital, former chairman of the Chinese Transplant Congress (CTC) and chairman of China Organ Procurement Organization Alliance.[5] He was also the chairman (from 2007 to 2017) of the Zhejiang branch of “China Anti-cult Association” (CACA), which is one of the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) important agencies against Falun Gong.[6]

Investigation Recording 4, Lang Ren: Director of Liver Transplantation, Beijing Chaoyang Hospital

Investigation Time: November 6, 2018 (13911757869)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 4.pdf)

Excerpts:
If everything goes well, it can be two or three weeks.” Investigator: The donors, are the type of Falun Gong practitioners, that kind of normal healthy donors, right?
Lang Ren: Right, right, correct, correct, you are right.

Personal Profile:
Chief Physician, Associate Professor, Master’s degree students’ supervisor. He served as the editorial board member of the “Chinese Journal of Hepatobiliary Surgery” and member of the Beijing Medical Association’s Enteral Nutrition Committee. Since 1999, he has been participating in clinical work and basic research on liver transplantation.[7]

Investigation Recording 5, Qu Qingshan: Director of the Organ Transplantation Center of the People’s Hospital of Zhengzhou

Investigation Time: November 6, 2018 (13703717386)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 5.pdf)

Excerpts:
(Investigator: Another thing is, the donors you are using now, are still the normal donors of Falun Gong practitioners, right?) Yes, all of them are in the normal state.

Personal Profile:
Qu Qingshan, chief physician, professor, Master’s degree students’ supervisor. He is Director of Zhengzhou Human Organ Transplantation Center, a current member of the Organ Transplantation Branch of the Chinese Medical Association; a member of the Organ Transplantation Physician Branch of the Chinese Medical Association; a Standing Committee Member of the Organ Donation and Acquisition Management Committee of the Chinese Medical Association; a Standing Committee Member of the Dialysis Transplant Branch of the Chinese Biomedical Engineering Society; and the Member of the Kidney Transplantation Branch of the China Healthcare International Exchange Promotion Association Standing Committee; Deputy Director of the Organ Transplantation Branch of the Henan Medical Association.[8]

Investigation Recording 6, Miao Shuzhai: Chief Physician of the Organ Transplantation Center of Zhengzhou People’s Hospital

Investigation time: November 6, 2018 (13938277351)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 6.pdf)

Excerpts: 
Arranging for a liver transplant surgery usually takes one or two weeks to one month.
Investigator: And regarding your current donors, your donors are that type of normal donors (that practice) Falun Gong, right?
Miao Shuzhai: Right, right, right.

Personal Profile: Chief physician, graduated from Henan Medical University.[9]

Investigation Recording 7, Ye Qifa: Vice President of the Third Xiangya Hospital of Central South University

Investigation time: November 6, 2018 (13875987051)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 7.pdf)

Excerpts:
The hospital does organ transplants every day. After the matching is finished, a surgery can possibly be performed within a month.
Investigator: About that, your donors are still Falun Gong (practitioners), donors in normal conditions, right?
Ye Qifa: It’s easy to perform (the surgery). Just send me his medical record first, alright?

Personal profile:
Ye Qifa is a professor and PhD student supervisor, and an expert that enjoys the special allowance of the State Council. He is the vice president of the Third Xiangya Hospital of Central South University, the executive vice president of the Institute of Transplant Medicine, and the director of the Transplant Medicine Engineering Technology Research Center of the Ministry of Health. He is also a member of the Standing Committee of the Organ Transplantation Branch of the Chinese Society of Surgery, the deputy director of the Hunan Provincial Medical Association’s Organ Transplantation Branch, the deputy director of the Hunan Provincial Liver Disease Society, the director of the Hunan Provincial Organ Transplant Quality Control Center, as well as the deputy director of the Hunan Provincial Human Organ Transplantation Technology Clinical Application Committee.[10]

Investigation Recording 8, Hang Hualian: Chief Medical Officer of Liver Transplantation Surgery Department, Shanghai Renji Hospital

Investigation Time: November 7, 2018 (18616206806)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 8.pdf)

Excerpts:
I’ll try my best to get it done for you within one week. Investigator: You are using Falun Gong (practitioner) donors now, right?Hang Hualian: Yes, this is for sure.

Personal Profile:
Deputy Chief Physician, Associate Professor, Master’s degree students’ supervisor at the Department of Liver Surgery, Liver Transplantation Center, Renji Hospital, affiliated with Shanghai Jiao Tong University School of Medicine. Member of the Transplant Surgery Technical Committee of the Organ Transplantation Physician Branch of the Chinese Medical Association, member of the Stem Cell and Tissue Transplantation Committee of the Organ Transplantation Physician Branch of the Chinese Medical Association, member of the Hepatobiliary and Pancreatic Surgery Committee of the Cross-Strait Medical and Health Exchange Association, and the chief examiner of the National Practitioner Examination.[11]

Investigation Recording 9, Liu Dongfu: Director of Kidney Transplantation, Yantai Yuhuangding Hospital, Shandong Province

Investigation time: November 8, 2018 (13853501608)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 9.pdf)

Excerpts:
“We may have it (kidney source) as fast as tomorrow.” “It can be as fast as within a week. If not that fast, you can have it after waiting for two months, in two months.”
Investigator: So it is like, please help do quality control. The best would be, having a donor like that type of Falun Gong people, I mean a donor with normal conditions.
Liu Dongfu: This, listen to me, there is something that we can discuss after you come here.

Personal profile:
Chief physician, professor, current deputy director of the Yantai Branch of the Chinese Medical Association’s Department of Urology, deputy director of the Shandong Provincial Organ Transplantation Society, and deputy director of the Organ Transplantation Center of Yantai Yuhuangding Hospital.[12]

Investigation Recording 10, Wang Xuehao: Director of the Liver Transplantation Center of the First Affiliated Hospital of Nanjing Medical University

Investigation time: November 8, 2018 (13305178713)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 10.pdf)

Excerpts:
It usually takes less than two weeks to arrange a liver transplant operation for Blood Type B patients. Most organs come from outside of the hospital, obtained from the center of brain deaths.

Personal profile:
Wang Xuehao is an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, chief physician, professor and Ph.D students’ supervisor. He is working in the fields of hepatobiliary surgery and liver transplantation. He is currently director of the Institute of Liver Surgery at the First Affiliated Hospital of Nanjing Medical University, director of the Liver Transplantation Center of Jiangsu Province, Director of the Key Laboratory of Live Liver Transplantation of the Ministry of Health and director of the lab’s Academic Committee, member of the Human Organ Transplantation Expert Group of the Ministry of Health, and deputy chairman of the Jiangsu Medical Association.[13]

Investigation Recording 11, Bai Rongsheng: Liver Transplant Doctor and Assistant to President Shen Zhongyang at Tianjin First Central Hospital

Investigation time: November 15, 2018 (13803019898)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 11.pdf)

Excerpts:
(Investigator: Regarding liver donors, the situation now is that in general they are the type of healthy donors, right? The kind from Falun Gong practitioners, right?) Right, right, right, ah.

Personal Profile:
Shen Zhongyang, Director of the Liver Transplantation Research Institute of the Third Medical Center of the People’s Liberation Army General Hospital (formerly the Armed Police Force General Hospital); Director of the Oriental Organ Transplantation Center (Tianjin), chief physician, professor and PhD students’ supervisor.[14]

Investigation Recording 12, Wang Changxi: Director of the Kidney Transplant Department’s Second Section at the First Affiliated Hospital, Sun Yat-Sen University, Guangzhou

Investigation Time: November 15, 2018 (13600450862)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 12.pdf)

Excerpts:
Investigator: I want to ask about regarding the liver sources. You still use (those from) Falun Gong (practitioners), healthy donors, right? Wang Changxi: All, all of them are. Now all donated ones are. All deceased citizen donors might all have these.

Personal profile:
Wang Changxi is a professor, chief physician and PhD students’ supervisor. He is currently the director of his hospital’s Department of Organ Transplantation and concurrently the deputy director of its Surgery Laboratory.[15]

Investigation Recording 13, He Xiaoshun: Vice President of the First Affiliated Hospital, Sun Yat-sen University (1)

The first investigation time: November 15, 2018 (13802510799)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 13.pdf)

Excerpts:
In general, it usually takes one or two weeks to arrange an operation, but sometimes [it would take] one month.
Investigator: Well, my question is: Are they the type of organs from Falun Gong (practitioners)? The organs themselves are healthy, right?
He Xiaoshun: Yes, right, right. Of course, of course.

Personal Profile:
He Xiaoshun is currently the deputy president of the First Affiliated Hospital, Sun Yat-sen University, a leader of organ transplantation, professor and PhD students’ supervisor. He is also a member of the International Liver Transplant Society, member of the International Society of Digestive Surgery, expert member of the Clinical Application Committee of the Human Organ Transplantation of the Ministry of Health, member of the Organ Transplantation Branch of the Chinese Medical Association, member of the Chinese Medical Association’s Surgery Branch, vice chairman of the Guangdong Provincial Liver Disease Society, and Chairman of the Organ Transplantation Professional Committee.[16]

Investigation Recording 14, He Xiaoshun: Vice President of the First Affiliated Hospital, Sun Yat-sen University (2)

The Second investigation time: November 16, 2018 (13802510799)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 14.pdf)

Excerpts:
Investigator: Since on one hand, it is the issue of skills, on the other hand, it is the issue of the organ. The organs you use, I know they are from Falun Gong practitioners, so the organs must be good. Combining these two factors, it would be perfect.
He Xiaoshun: Correct.

Investigation Recording 15, Peng Zhihai: Vice President of Shanghai General Hospital, Director of Organ Transplantation Center

Investigation time: November 16, 2018 (13761010066)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 15.pdf)

Excerpts:
1. Investigator: Okay, okay. I have another [question]. You are using Falun Gong practitioners as the donors, that is, those healthy donors, right?
Peng Zhihai: Definitely healthy. How can it be acceptable if they’re not healthy?!

2. Investigator: The main concern is if you can check the quality of the donors — the Falun Gong (practitioner) donors!
Peng Zhihai: No problem, no problem.

Personal profile:
Peng Zhihai is a professor, chief physician and PhD students’ supervisor. He is currently the vice president of Shanghai General Hospital, as well as the director and academic leader of the hospital’s General Surgery Clinical Medicine Center. He is also a member of the Chinese Medical Association’s Surgical Society, Vice Chairman of the Shanghai Medical Association’s Society of General Surgery, Deputy Director of the Hepatobiliary Diseases Branch of China International Exchange and Promotion Association for Medical and Healthcare, Standing Committee Member of the Organ Transplantation Society of the China Medical Association, Vice President of the Chinese Medical Doctor Association’s Organ Transplantation Physician Branch and Vice Director of the Chinese Medical Doctor Association’s Organ Transplantation Physician Group, Chairman of the Chinese Medical Doctor Association’s First Organ Transplantation Management Committee, deputy head of the Liver Transplantation Group of the Organ Transplantation Branch of the Chinese Medical Association, Chairman of the Organ Transplantation Society of the Shanghai Medical Association, Director of the Shanghai Organ Transplantation Clinical Medicine Center, Director of the Shanghai Organ Transplantation Research Center, Director of the Shanghai Liver Transplantation Quality Control Center and Director of the Institute of Organ Transplantation, Shanghai Jiaotong University.

Investigation Recording 16, Chen Huaizhou: Director of the Organ Transplant Center of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) No. 181 Hospital (Guilin, Guangxi)

Investigation time: November 16, 2018 (13087737632)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 16.pdf)

Excerpts
Investigator: His family members hope that, they hope to use that type of Falun Gong (practitioners) donors. If this kind of donors are available, he (i.e. the patient) will definitely come over immediately.
Chen Huaizhou: Yes, yes! You come over to be hospitalized for a checkup, have an examination, get a checkup first.

Investigation Recording 17, Dr. Li, Doctor-on-duty at the Urology Surgery Department of Beijing Chaoyang Hospital

Investigation time: December 2, 2018 (01186-10-85231457)

(To listen MP3; download translated conversation transcript 17.pdf)

Excerpts:
Investigator: They are still the normal kidney sources from Falun Gong (practitioners), right?
Dr. Li: Right, right, right.

Investigator: Generally speaking, if you take a donor, you should not only take a kidney, but also the heart, liver and kidney. How long does it take for this process?
Dr. Li: The bigger the organ(s), the longer it takes.

Investigator: How long does it take to excise organs in general?
Dr. Li: About three or four hours.

Investigator: It takes three or four hours to get this organ from disinfection, draping to completion, right?
Dr. Li: Right, right, right.

 

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